Petrus Jacobus Venter
omstreeks 1785 – ? · Venter line
Verbinding met die Koup
Het in 'n huishouding op hierdie grond ingetrou: Cornelia Petronella Oosthuizen.
- gebeurtenis The estate at de Modder Fonteyn is inventoried1809-04-23
Naam
- Doopnaam
- Petrus Jacobus
- Voorname
- Petrus Jacobus
- Van
- Venter
Die formele doopnaam en die naam waarop iemand werklik geroep is, word albei gehou, en nie een word van die ander afgelei nie. Spelling wat van rekord tot rekord verskil, is self getuienis en nie geraas nie.
Drie geslagte om hierdie mens
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Naaste familie
- Vader
- Jan Louis Venter
- Moeder
- Johanna Jacomina Smit
- Broers en susters
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- 1779Catharina Petronella Venter
- 1782Martha Jacoba Venter
- 1783Maria Catharina Venter
- 1786Jacobus Daniel Venter
- 1787Maria Magdalena Venter
- 1789Elisabeth Johanna Venter
- 1790Jan Louis Venter
- 1792Adriana Cecilia Venter
- 1793Hester Engela Elizabeth Venter
- 1795Johanna Jacomina Venter
- 1796Johannes Henricus Venter
- 1799Maria Elizabeth Catharina Venter
- 1801Francois Alwyn Venter
- 1803Catharina Petronella Venter
- Getroud
- Cornelia Petronella Oosthuizen
- Kinders
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- 1809Petrus Jacobus Stephanus Venter
- 1811Susanna Catharina Petronella Venter
- 1813Jan Louis Venter
- 1816Ockert Jacobus Venter
- 1817Johanna Jacoba Maria Venter
- 1819Jacobus Daniël Venter
- 1820Hermanus Carl Andries Venter
- 1822Cornelia Petronella Magdalena Venter
- 1825Catharina Petronella Venter
- 1827Roelof Venter
- 1829Hendricus Johannes Venter
- 1830Johanna Jacomina Susanna Venter
'n Lewe in die rekord
- omstreeks 1785 gebore Born
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19 Maart 1786
gebeurtenis
Petrus Jacobus Venter baptised at Paarl
Baptised at the family's own church with his father's two sisters and their husbands standing - Tjaart van der Walt with Maria Elizabeth Venter, Jan Louis du Plessis with Hester Venter (the couples MOOC8/50.47a names, SRC-581). The register writes no birth date; he was born about 1785.
- 19 Maart 1786 geleentheid Doop te Paarl (Drakenstein) [FS]
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23 April 1809
gebeurtenis
The estate at de Modder Fonteyn is inventoried
MOOC8/28.63. Ockert Oosthuijzen died intestate on the Olifants River leaving eleven children, the youngest two years old. The inventory walks the house room by room and then out to the yard, where it finds an ox wagon, yellowwood planks, WAGONMAKER'S WOOD and a broken chaise - and in the winkel a be
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19 Augustus 1821
gebeurtenis
Three Oosthuijzen siblings on one register page
Not an event so much as a shape the page makes, and it is the kind of thing this project exists to find. On 19 August 1821 the Beaufort West register carries two baptisms back to back: ENTRY 381 - Petrus Jacobus Venter and CORNELIA PETRONELLA OOSTHUIJZEN's son. ENTRY 382 - CORNELIS ANDRIES OOSTHUIJZ
- 19 Augustus 1821 getuie Was getuie by 'n doop van 'n kind · Cornelis Andries Oosthuizen
Wie by hulle gestaan het
Wie by 'n doop, 'n testament of 'n opmeting geteken het, is nie bykomstig nie. Dit is die duidelikste oorblywende rekord van watter families naby mekaar gestaan het.
- het vir hulle gestaan Tjaart van der Watt doop · 19 Maart 1786 · husband of Maria Elizabeth Venter, the father's sister [SRC-581]
- het vir hulle gestaan Maria Elisabeth Venter doop · 19 Maart 1786 · the father's sister [SRC-581]
- het vir hulle gestaan Jan Lois du Plesie doop · 19 Maart 1786 · husband of Hester Venter, the father's sister [SRC-581]
- het vir hulle gestaan Hester Venter doop · 19 Maart 1786 · the father's sister [SRC-581]
- hulle het gestaan vir
Cornelis Andries Oosthuizen doop van 'n kind · 19 Augustus 1821
on Middelwater
Stories
- mentioned Twee troues, vyf maande uitmekaar
Wat ons nie weet nie
- Geen sterfdatum is aangeteken nie.
- Geen gedateerde rekord bind hierdie mens aan 'n bepaalde stuk grond nie.
A sourced gap beats an unsourced fill. These are the open questions on this person, stated rather than papered over.
Bronne
- MOOC8/28.63 - Inventory of the estate of Ockert Oosthuijzen, taken at de Modder Fonteyn on the Olifants River, 23 April 1809 Cape Archives (KAB), Master of the Orphan Chamber; transcription published by TANAP / Globalise (Huygens KNAW)MOOC8/28.63, {18090423}
- Beaufort West baptisms, August 1821, entries 377–385 (image S3HY-6573-X8X) FamilySearch, "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records (Stellenbosch Archive), 1690-2011"; citing Genealogiese Instituut van Suid-Afrika, Stellenboschark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6573-X8X; South Africa > Cape > Beaufort West > Baptisms 1819-1844; register entries 377-385
- A sweep of the published MOOC8 for the officials who signed the 1809 Modderfonteyn inventory - and the Cango estate they took four days earlier TANAP / Globalise (Huygens KNAW), Cape transcriptions, Orphan Chamber MOOC8MOOC8/28.63 (23 Apr 1809), MOOC8/28.25 (19 Apr 1809), MOOC8/28.22 (17 May 1809), MOOC8/26.65 (1807), MOOC8/25.40 (10 Jul 1805), MOOC8/25.18 (1804). Volumes machine-searched: MOOC8_21-30 and MOOC8_31-40, the ranges covering Faure's tenure. Volumes below 21 are published under a grouping this sweep did not resolve and were NOT searched, so the signing range given below is a floor, not a census.
- Baptism of Petrus Jacobus Venter, 19 March 1786 - and the register writes no birth datePaarl NG, register G3/3/4 (baptisms 1786-1799) - PROVEN BY TARGET CARD, 24 Aug 2026: 'CONT FROM ANOTHER ROLL - ROLL NUMBER 79. CAPE DUTCH REFORMED CHURCH REGISTERS - PROJECT S.AF 00532. DETAIL OF ITEM NUMBERS' listing items 4-9 as Paarl baptism registers, item 9 being G3/3/4, 1786-1799. The item assignment is by year-fit: only G3/3/4 covers 1786-1790. Film of 125 images. Earlier note stands: FamilySearch L4Q7-841 independently gives the christening place as Paarl, Drakenstein.Register opening paginated 6-7, second entry on page 6
Navorsingsnotas
[TREE] Added 2026-07-31 by kin_sweep.py under the one-degree rule: child of Cornelia Petronella OosthuizenH, spouse of Cornelia Petronella OosthuizenH. Thin record, name, dates and the family link only. NO PLACE IMPORTED: the tree's place strings are systematically wrong and are not evidence.
[14 Aug 2026] MERGED PER-000293 into this row. One man, two rows, joined by his wife's age. PER-000293 came off the 1809 estate inventory SRC-092 as 'husband of Cornelia Petronella OosthuizenH, then 17', with no dates at all. PER-000589 came off the private tree as Petrus Jacobus VenterH 1786-1846, whose recorded spouse is PER-000144 Cornelia Petronella OosthuizenH, born 1791 - which makes her 17 going on 18 in 1809, exactly as the inventory says. Same name, same wife, same age at the same date. WHAT THE MERGE IS WORTH: PER-000589's parents are Jan Louis VenterL and Johanna Jacomina SmitM, so this man is ADRIANA CECILIA VENTER'S OWN ELDER BROTHER - and the note on the retired row, that a Venter married an Oosthuizen thirteen years before Ockert Almero and Adriana Cecilia's son married Adriana Cecilia, becomes a much stronger statement than it was: it was her brother, not merely someone of her surname. The retired row's claim that he was 'child of Cornelia Petronella OosthuizenH' was a kin_sweep artefact and is wrong; his mother is Johanna Jacomina SmitM. Moved across: given=Petrus Jacobus; doopnaam=Petrus Jacobus; flourished_edtf=1809; living=0.
[24 Aug 2026] BIRTH CORRECTED from 1786-03-19, which was his BAPTISM date recorded as a birth: the register entry (SRC-575) carries no gebooren margin at all. Born about 1785 - the page's own baptism-lag pattern, the arithmetic against his brother's 26 Jan 1786 birth (SRC-576), and FamilySearch L4Q7-841 all agree; circa because no document states the day. This closes the 52-day impossible-spacing pair on LEAD-0108.
[24 Aug 2026] THE DEATH DATE IS NOW IN QUESTION: this row carries 1846-10-05, but FamilySearch L4Q7-841 records no death source and reasons that he 'still gave permission on his son's marriage of 11 Sep 1848'. A man cannot consent two years after dying, so either 1846-10-05 is wrong, or it belongs to a namesake - note his brother Jacobus Daniel also carries d. 1846. NOT changed: the marriage record has not been seen. [TO VERIFY]
[24 Aug 2026] DEATH DATE 1846-10-05 REMOVED, DISPROVEN BY REGISTER: he consents in person to his daughter Johanna Jacomina Susanna's marriage at Colesberg on 29 MAY 1848 (SRC-578, entry 959), nineteen months after that date. The 1846 date was [TREE] and may belong to his brother Jacobus Daniel (d. 1846) or another namesake. His actual death is unknown: alive 29 May 1848, and FS reasons he consented again on 11 Sep 1848 (record not yet seen). [TO VERIFY]
These are working notes, not finished prose: they carry the reasoning, the corrections and the things still marked to verify. They are kept here so the page itself can read as what is known.
Die werksnotas op hierdie werf word in Engels gehou en word nie vertaal nie. Hulle verander met elke navorsingsessie, en 'n vertaling sou uit pas raak met die oorspronklike. Alles anders - die stories, die getranskribeerde dokumente en die koppelvlak - is in Afrikaans.
Oop vrae
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Two Oosthuizen-Venter marriages in eighteen months, on the Olifants River
prioriteit 1 · LEAD-0034
Ockert Almero married Adriana Cecilia VenterM in Oct 1807; by April 1809 his sister Cornelia Petronella was married to Petrus Jacobus VenterH. Were the two Venters siblings, and is this a double alliance between two families about to move east together?
Wat dit sou uitmaak Petrus Jacobus VenterH's parents. If they are Jan Louis VenterL and Johanna Jacomina SmitM, it is a double alliance and the case is made.
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Seven pairs of siblings born too close together for both to be real
prioriteit 2 · LEAD-0108
Seven mothers in this model have two children whose exact birth dates fall less than ten months apart, twins excluded. For each: are the two rows one child, is one date wrong, or is one parentage link wrong?
Wat dit sou uitmaak One register entry per pair.
Elders
FamilySearch-profiel L4Q7-841