Souwa van Madagascar
about 1675 – about 1712
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Immediate family
- Children
- Helena Catharina Siewers
A life in the record
- about 1675 born Born
- about 1712 died Died
Stories
- mentioned A woman's forty-six possessions
- mentioned The Jouberts and Duminys of the winelands
What we don't know
- Neither parent is recorded, so this person is not attached to the tree above them.
- No dated record ties this person to a specific piece of ground.
A sourced gap beats an unsourced fill. These are the open questions on this person, stated rather than papered over.
Research notes
[TREE] Added 6 Aug 2026. Named on [S021] as one of the enslaved or free-black people at the head of this family, and held no row in this model until now — the site asserted the descent on a published page while the model could not answer a single question about the person. Dates as the private tree gives them; NO PLACE IMPORTED, per 5. No FamilySearch id yet: see PEOPLE-WITHOUT-FS-ID.md and LEAD-0112. S021 is itself marked provisional — this descent rests on a family tree and not yet on the Cape records — and creating the row does not change that. [TO VERIFY] S021 gives 'after 1712' for the death; recorded here as 1712~ because EDTF has no 'after' form this project uses and the tree says the same.
[15 Aug 2026, FS] FamilySearch id filled from the FamilySearch id field of the family tree exports, matched on this row's own tree id and accepted only because the tree's NAME AND YEARS agree with this row. It is a door to the sources, not a source: nothing here is taken from the profile.
[22 Sep 2026, SRC-664] FIRST FIFTY YEARS g9/p9666.htm (indexed as Soua) (Wayback snapshot 20240616090324): enslaved to the VOC and not shown as freed; ten children baptised 1689-1712, among them Helena Siebers (1690; estate MOOC8/5.3, 1727); no partner named. PROBABLE match. Her birth 'c.1675' is too late for a child baptised in 1689 and should be read as unknown. Which child the descent runs through is not yet checked. [FFY; originals it cites to pull]
These are working notes, not finished prose: they carry the reasoning, the corrections and the things still marked to verify. They are kept here so the page itself can read as what is known.
Open questions
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FamilySearch ids for the enslaved and free-black ancestors, and for Anthony van de Kaap
priority 1 · LEAD-0112
Eleven people at the head of this family — the ten of S021 plus Catharina van PalliacattaM — and the one enslaved man in the family's own estate papers carry no FamilySearch id between them. Which of them have profiles, and what are the ids?
What would settle it An id per person, or a recorded finding that no profile exists.
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Import the nine Cape descent chains - they are Frans's own ancestry, generation 9 to 13
priority 1 · LEAD-0116
Eight of S021's ten have no recorded child in this model, so the site names a descent it cannot walk. The private tree holds every chain. Importing them means about fifty new person rows across the de Wet, Mocke, Duminy, Snyman, van Dyk, Janse van Vuuren, Smuts and du Preez lines. Is that in scope?
What would settle it Frans deciding. A middle course exists: import only the chains that reach families the site actually writes about, and leave the rest as a stated gap on the page.
Elders
FamilySearch profile LTNY-53M