"Klue van Klueplaas, Klaarstroom" - Pieter Olckers, South African Genealogy group
website · · consulted 2026-07-29
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- website
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- Facebook, South African Genealogy group
- Reference
- Post of 27 Jul 2026, 13:07, with follow-up comments; two portrait photographs and a crop of a 1915 Prince Albert registry map
- Consulted
- 2026-07-29
The citation as it was given
Pieter Olckers found two framed portrait sketches under decades of dust in an attic ("solder") on Klueplaas, Klaarstroom - "Die plaas staan nou bekend as Middelwater en is gelee tussen Prince Albert en De Rust." No names survive on the backing paper. Frans (in the thread) dated the dress to the 1870s-early 1880s and suggested Ockert Almero Oosthuizen (PER-000005, FS LDQC-R1B) and Aletta Catharina Maria Helena Hitge (PER-000139, FS LV6B-NWH) - SUSPECTED, NOT CONFIRMED. Provenance fits: Vaste Water (Ged.5 of Middelwater's remainder) passed to Susanna Maria Klue by deed 3007/1923, the year after Ockert Almero died (2 Jan 1922) - see OWN-000058. Olckers' 1915 map crop independently shows Middelwater "J.D.J. Oosthuysen, Amended Title 1884, P.A.Q.3" and Vrolykheid "N Hitge, 15 April 1841, B.W.Q.5-18" - corroborating OWN-000002 and the B.W.Q.5-18 reading on DOC-0027 (see OWN-000022). Clean copy of the map to be requested. | *** 'pieter olcker's grandmother is a oosthuizen and burried in that area.' *** WHICH MAY EXPLAIN THE WHOLE POST. Olckers found the two Klueplaas portraits and photographed the 1915 registry map because he has a FAMILY TIE to this exact ground, not by chance. NOT YET IDENTIFIED: which Oosthuizen woman, which grave. This model holds roughly twenty Oosthuizen women buried at Prince Albert, Zeekoegat and Klaarstroom (see the person and grave rows already tied to PER-000001 Ockert Almero Oosthuizen's descendants), and none is yet linked to an Olckers descendant. [FAMILY, TO VERIFY] LEAD-0340.
Kept verbatim. This project contradicts published genealogies and corrects a family's own oral tradition, so every claim has to be checkable by someone who was not in the room.